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Friday, January 12, 2007

Interesting Icon


Anonymous INDOLENT SERVER said...

Can you post a larger version? I clicked on it but it remains the same size.

1:39 AM  
Blogger Constantine said...

This icon is really going places!

It's an instructive icon, I think - much like the abortion icon with children on swings and bicycles - but not one that I'd venerate (where do I kiss?).

Perhaps, if Patriarch Athenagoras and the pope were omitted/replaced, I think it should be a rather fun icon to have. :P

9:18 AM  
Blogger Eric John said...

That's the only size I could get. Sorry, it's really small.

Yes, it is an instructive icon. An icon about ecclesiology. True, Patriarch Athenagoras isn't an essential figure. Patriarch Meletius Metaxakis was worse, but, so far, neither have been anathematized. The Pope, however, belongs where he is as a heresiarch. I know it's not PC, but it's true--historically and at the present time.

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the new icon/painting you've posted in the heading. Is it OO or EO or RC?
I like OO icons more than EO icons; I think the OO icons may look more western somehow.

12:19 PM  
Blogger Eric John said...

The new icon in the heading is Ethiopian. It's one of my favorite styles. It appears simple, but is quite profound. And really colorful, too.

11:16 PM  
Blogger Michael Astley said...

How funny! I ordered a copy of that icon in December and it arrived on exactly the same that that you posted it to your blog, Eric John. :-)

I do venerate it, as I see Orthodox ecclesiology as an article of the Faith as expressed in the Creed. I venerate the Church, the image of Christ and his Blessed Mother, of the Fathers and Evangelists. For me, it shows our Holy Church as the Ark of Salvation to enter which we must cross the waters of Baptism.

Yes, it is partly instructional but the presence of the heretics does not in any way detract from the the holy image of the Church that the icon depicts. For those who wish to see a larger version, I have uploaded a scan to my webspace here.

Eric John, please would you update your link to my blog, as the URL has recently changed to

Many thanks.

4:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. The Pope right next to Mohammed. Clearly the writer of this icon missed the entire pontificate of John Paul II, Paul VI ...

5:03 AM  
Blogger Ann said...

So I know this is a really late comment to the discussion, but exactly what is this icon instructive of. A Cyprianic ecclesiology never endorsed by the church? I've seen this icon in person, it originates from an Old Clandarist group - people, who by the way, consider most cannonical Orthodox Christians to be outside the "Ark of the Church." I shudder tothink what passes for Orthodoxy at the hands of fundamentalists!!

1:13 AM  
Blogger -C said...

I'd have a tought time venerating this one, I'm afraid.

I think that this is why iconographers use a pre-existing prototype from which to write icons - in order that their own ideas and thoughts aren't what is being portrayed.

7:35 AM  

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